2011 ISC Masters Division « Thread Started on Aug 13, 2009, 9:35pm »
Kitchener Ontario is the host city for the 2011 ISC WT and the ISC II ToC.
Back in 2007 there were some rumors of a possible ISC Masters Division being added. What are the chances of the ISC adding a masters division in Kitchener for 2011 ?
You can put it in the bank. There will be a Masters division in Kitchener in 2011.
I'm hoping this rumour is true this time, I'd love to play in an ISC World Masters Tournament before I retire. If the 2011 masters tournament is going to happen I sure hope the ISC Executive make an official announcement right after the conclusion of this year's World Tournament, it would give all masters teams/players 2 YEARS to gear up, recuit players, hey it might even create some new masters teams or prevent some teams from folding.
I'm guessing as it's a brand new division they will want 2 years to work out all the details, extra volunteers, extra fields, umps, player eligibility rules etc. Speaking of eligibility rules, I wonder just what the ISC would come up with, can players play in the ISC Masters division and also play in the ISC or ISC II divisions ? Would the masters division be a wide open division with no restrictions and if so would the tournament run at a different time then the ISC and ISC II divisions ? What would the age eligibility rules be, 35? 40 ? Would there be 2 age divisions, 40+ and 50+ ? Sure will be intersting to see how this plays out !
Maybe the host for 2010 has no interest, or are unable to accommodate another division
how many teams do you think would go to kitchener for this..and where would the teams be from?
Well it's the biggest game in town so I would think lot's of teams would be on board for this. Teams from Ontario, Western Canada and the USA, many teams already go to the NAFA Masters World Series. If the ISC were to make the announcement sooner rather then later you might see a few international teams attend but they would probably need the full 2 years to raise funds.
Re: 2011 ISC Masters Division « Reply #9 on Aug 24, 2009, 9:40pm »
Were talking Masters Division here guys, that is Masters as in 40 and over. I am assuming most guys over 40 would be gainfully employed, and it wouldn't take them 2 yrs to save money to go to Kitchener to play
Re: 2011 ISC Masters Division « Reply #12 on Aug 27, 2009, 1:45pm »
The thoughts they have currently, that I received from a good source. 40 and over for all positions. If you play ISC or ISCII, you are not eligible for the Master's division.
Re: 2011 ISC Masters Division « Reply #13 on Aug 28, 2009, 9:05am »
Great ideas so far. I don't care who the guy is, play one or the other. I think you expect at least 16 teams the first year if not more. Will there be qualifiers or just cash to get in? Go with the later. Nobody wants to give up a weekend in the summer to play a qualifier when it isn't necessary. The first year they ran the ISCII they went way down the list and were willing to take anyone who went to the qualifier. Some teams had already committed to NAFA so it was bit under attended the first year, but 8 tourneys later its tough to get in.
I hear that the ISC is not the least bit interested in sanctioning a Masters division in Kitchener, Ontario in 2011 . . . or anywhere / anytime for that matter. That's a shame and more than a little short-sighted.
From what I hear, the ISC is struggling mightily to save the WT from extinction, and certain ISC Board members and commisioners are trying their darndest torpedo the ISC II ToC. It looks suspicously like they are deathly afraid that the II's will overshadow the WT if given enough years to mature in the eyes of the fastball community.
What better progression, in the long-term sceme of things, than to go from playing ISC II to ISC to ISC Masters. It could add a whole other dimension to the WT/ToC extranaganza. And just think of the former players/heroes that it could bring back for fans to see again.
If Kitchener decides to go it alone, without ISC sanction, it could still work. But, it would be so much better (and credible) if ISC got off its stuck-up, nose-in-the-air, pie-in-the-sky attitude and adopted a common sense approach to the game.
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? Sure will be intersting to see how this plays out !